October 8, 2019
“I’m optimistic, save for the fact that climate change is the first time-limited problem that we’ve ever really run into. Dr. King would say at the end of speeches ... ‘The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. This may take a while, but we’re going to win.’ The arc of the physical universe is short, and it bends toward heat. We win soon, or we don’t win.”
Bill McKibben is the author and environmentalist credited with penning the first book on climate change written for a general audience, The End of Nature. He is also a founder of 350.org, the first global, grassroots climate change movement. Bill was awarded the 2014 Right Livelihood Prize, the 2013 Gandhi Prize and the 2013 Thomas Merton Prize, and he was named to Foreign Policy magazine’s inaugural list of the world’s 100 most important global thinkers.
Today, Bill joins Ryan and Christophe to discuss his role in the climate movement, explaining what inspired him to start 350.org and why he chose that particular number as a target. He shares his view of the fossil fuel industry’s ability to divert the debate on climate change with money and power and addresses the global economy’s continued dependence on fossil fuels. Listen in for Bill’s insight on the powerful history of nonviolent social movements and learn how we can get back to a safe CO2 level of 350 ppm.
[0:59] Bill’s role in the climate movement
[4:59] Why Bill chose the number 350
[9:50] Bill’s insight around getting back to 350 ppm
[14:28] The role oil and gas companies might play in the solution
[18:15] The connection between big banks and oil and gas
[20:23] The global economy’s dependence on fossil fuels
[23:04] Bill’s take on the top two inventions of the 20th century
[28:35] The history of victory in social movements
[30:59] How Bill thinks about communication strategies
[33:24] Bill’s view of the opposition to the climate movement
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